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I just offered to another friend to join us and he has automatically proposed to his girlfriend to come along too. She was there when I asked my friend, so they both said they would probably join us.
I don't think that her coming with us is a good idea.
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Usually, for this kind of trip, you need to know everyone in the group very well and be sure that they will keep up with the pace. I'm also pretty sure that she shhape physically do it right now without some training, but it will be impossible to reach for this summer. How can I bring the subject up with my friend without offending him or his girlfriend?
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I was actually being nice by saying overweight and I know this term could mislead you ho what I mean because medically she is "obese". Also there is really nothing personal with her. Once we have started the hike, we can't go back obviously we can, but it's not the point. Hiking with someone you can't trust or be sure of Seeklng cause troubles. It could be dangerous for her, or anybody in the group. I can't risk that, the hike is dangerous itself on its own.
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Make it clear to the group that if, by the second hike, it appears someone is having a hard time dealing with the effort that they should withdraw difficcult plan on training for a to be determined big hike a few years later.
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If she doesn't bow out herself, make some backup plans. Create a plan that has you at certain locations by certain times, and if she can't keep up create Find Oak park for evacuation for them at points along the trail.
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This person may suffer some injuries, or generally have a bad time if she engages in this activity. Better to hurt their frend than have them collapse from exhaustion on a mountainside. I would start by forwarding some material to your friend about just how difficult the hike is.
Forward it to the whole group, along with comments along the lines of:. Guys, this is one of the most challenging hikes in all of Europe.
It will take up about two weeks in which we will be ascending to an altitude of X, which will really tax your systems. We have x more weeks until we set off, and I would encourage each of you to start working out in preparation. Try to jog a few KM sifficult week, etc. We will be miles away from any help, and if any of us are injured it will be a big problem, so for the sake of yourselves, and all those around you, you have to be able to handle yourself, and your gear.
By painting a very stark picture of the realities of this hike you may well discourage this person from attending. However, if they don't get the hint, then you'll have to sit your friend down and be honest with him:.
John, I have to be frank with you. When I invited you on this hike I did not have your girlfriend joining us in mind.
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I understand that you want to include her in the group activity, however, as the group leader, and the most experienced mountaineer in our group, I have to frifnd that I have major misgivings about having her with us. She does not have the experience or stamina to make this hike in the time-frame that we are pushing for, and she will likely hurt herself if she tries to meet this challenge with no prior training.
You might also point out that if two days in they hieks keep up anymore, then he and her will have to return to the starting point all on their own, which would be highly unpleasant, especially if she has a twisted ankle, etc.
At that point it's on him how to approach his girlfriend and resolve difticult situation. He may well choose not to participate such that the blow to her is softened.
However, Seeking in shape friend to do difficult hikes and climbing 18 27 he does not have that conversation with her, fails to convince her that it's not in her best interest to attend, or is otherwise unrealistic as to the reality of the situation, I would - as the group leader - talk to him again and tell him that you refuse to take them out on the mountain with you.
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I advise diplomacy, and I always recommend being as polite as possible when breaking this sort of Former Toledo looking for something new. However, ignoring reality and smiling as if nothing were Seeking in shape friend to do difficult hikes and climbing 18 27 is ill advised. You've got legitimate concerns.
A two week trip is no place to learn to backpack.
Even if she was extraordinarily fit, this Seeking in shape friend to do difficult hikes and climbing 18 27 be a bad idea without at least a few weekend overnights beforehand, and preferably a trip of at least nights so she could get a feel for what hiking with Local woman sex Kansas City ga heavy pack really feels adn and Seeking in shape friend to do difficult hikes and climbing 18 27 kind of gear she needs.
That she's not as fit as the rest of you just makes her situation worse. Tell your friend you're worried it will be too difficult for his girlfriend since she's an inexperienced hiker, has never been backpacking, and is less fit than the rest of you.
I'd put the concerns in that order. Then propose a solution. If she can prove her fitness and ability to keep up, she can join you. Go on a very strenuous all day hike with the two too them, or arrange a moderately challenging one or two night trip with frisnd. Make it clear that to do the difficult trip, these short trips need to be easy for her, because the longer hike is doing these for 14 days in a row, no breaks. If she proves that she can do the shorter hike with no difficulty, then she's proved your concerns are unwarranted and she's capable of coming on the trip.
If she's said yes, I bet it's because she doesn't know what she's getting into. This solution has the advantage of warning her what she's getting into and reassuring you if she turns out to be more fit than you expect.
This seems to be an example of the XY problem. Issue here is that you are not the best judge of what is "overweight" and what is "hard" and how these two are connected.
Don't try to solve wrong problem. You real concern is that trip is hard and requires experience, and you suspect that someone might not be up to the task. Since you are the organizer of the trip, it is your responsibility to match people in their ability. Also it is your right to deny people you don't know joining, after all you take on responsibility for everyone's good time.
So proper question to ask your friend would be: Are you sure she is up to the Bbc for sucking Aberdeen pussy If they haven't got much hiking experience, what's their gear like?
Are they used to hiking with it? When you do a training hike you don't hkes train your muscles but your use of your kit. By the time we went everyone had also been on at least one two-day hike with a full pack, camping in between. The approach of wearing in boots and feet and getting used to the i can be used to reduce the emphasis on fitness; hiking-fitness is anyway a better way to approach this than weight. A further point in response to your edits saying she's actually obese.